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Post by rieom on Aug 23, 2019 14:17:24 GMT
This looks good Marylou but I just skimmed it and will come back to read further.
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Post by mary on Aug 23, 2019 17:23:30 GMT
Thanks! I added some bits to study on Joel especially.
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Post by mary on Dec 10, 2020 0:00:38 GMT
I've posted some typology ideas here under Ruth and Boaz, Nahum, Joel, but I don't think I put up the following:
Typology Notes 23 April 1988 with changes, additions 11 Aug 2019
I have prepared some material about some types.
Perhaps my favorite is that Judges 4 and 5, about Deborah and Barak, is a picture story of the victory of the church going up through the heavens. Barak (means "to kneel," or "lightning") is the ready general, even as the Lord (who wants His church beside Him as He brings down the enemy army). Deborah goes with General Barak. Deborah is shown singing of victory and songs that sound like praises to Jesus ("lay down .... life"; and "them that ride on white asses"), even before the head of the enemy is slain. Every man of the evil army is dead. The Lord gave the victory through an outpouring rain. The enemy general, Sisera, is like the Antichrist and he flees to the plain of Magiddo, southeast of the Sea of Galilee, in the north of Israel. Jael, like Israel, will be the cause of his downfall. He hides from pursuers in her tent on 'the plain of Zaanaim, which is by Kedesh,' and when he asks for water, she gives him milk. Milk could be Scripture. She takes a hammer and drives a tent peg into his skull. I think the tent peg, like a nail, is to be her realization and acceptance that Messiah is Jesus! Isaiah speaks of the nail. During this, the church is in heaven, like Deborah, watching, singing, up over the defeated demon hordes that have had dominion in the heavenlies in the past. [My research indicates that Deborah was at Kadesh, a city of refuge and the name means "holy, sacred." Kadesh is now thought to be near the southwestern shore of Galilee.] Judges 4. This story parallels the Battle of Armageddon.
I'm reminded that Noah was up over all the death and flood and darkness. Lot was taken up above before the Lord struck in judgment. Joshua and his people walk over the walls and into the city the Lord has given into their hands.
I think Joel, chapter 1, shows some of the Jews realizing there is no sacrifice, no communion, after the church is gone. The Rapture is, I believe, shown by the failed harvest verses in Joel 1, 2, and the destruction of their crops depicts spiritual loss. The Church was harvested like a ready crop of grain. Next verses speak of a mighty enemy invasion. Later in the book of Joel, much encouragement is given to the Jews that would help them in tribulation. I've done a line by line study of Joel (here at RaptureWatch) with my reasons for thinking this. It appears that the Lord will take up the young children of evil nations.
Nahum depicts the "old lion" and his lair and verse after verse points to the Vatican. Locusts are its princes; quaking mountains place this at the end times. Clues are the words "stagnant pool," "a city of prey," "stumbles over its corpses" (reminds me of the statues of the dead). This group combines with the end time harlot system and the destruction is told of too, with some more details. In Nahum the old lion feeds the others.
In the story of Ruth, I think I have some new insights. I knew that Ruth is like the church, and Boaz is like the Lord. As I reread the story, I noticed that Ruth prepares food for Naomi who lives in the city (Jerusalem) - I think about 19 pints, enough for them both for a while. Then as Boaz awakens with Ruth at his feet and promises to see her cared for (he swears it!), he loads Ruth with 16 seahs (seems to be 15 gallons) of grain in her vail! I think this represents Scripture and the helps which Israel will receive during the tribulation, while the church is with the Lord. Also, perhaps the most important point, is that the child Obed (means "serving") is like the 144,000 believing Jewish evangelists: offspring, fruit of the Lord's Scripture and His church's prayers. These Jews are the joy, the restoration of Israel, who like Naomi, thought all her sons were dead. In the story, Boaz takes note of Ruth in the field, just as the Lord chooses us, and Boaz feeds Ruth the parched grain, during the time she gleans. He tells Ruth to just work in his field. All of this indicates to me that the church will be blessed and with the Lord in heaven before Israel is fully restored to joy!
One unique feature about Rebekah as depicting the bride of Christ is that she is taken to her lord's home. The servant of Abraham came and asked if she would marry Isaac, and she said whe would go to marry him. She has never seen Isaac, yet recognizes him and goes to him, as we will go to the Lord Jesus.
I had puzzled over the fact that no bone of Jesus's body was broken, and wondered if that had some deep meaning from Scripture, since He was so terribly afflicted and hurt otherwise. Then I realized that Eve was made from Adam's rib -- the Lord bore a terrible wound right near His rib but the rib was not broken. This I think depicts the protected church so touchingly.
Also, in the story that Jesus gave of the "midnight call" and the five virgins with lighted lamps and five whose lamps have gone out, we realize that the bride has preceded them. The story has a Bride in it, she just isn't mentioned because she is already inside. John the Baptist was the greatest of men, but even he did not have the joy of being part of the bride (John 3:29). Paul mentioned he would like to prepare the church as a chaste bride. So I think we should focus on brides if we look for foreshadows of this type in the Old Testament books.
In one of his studies, Dr. Thomas Ice said the following: "There are major problems with anyone’s attempt to apply this parable to the church to begin with, since Israel is in view. Further, the imagery does not match up with what should be if this were actually teaching a partial rapture doctrine. The imagery used in the parable of the ten virgins does not comport with that used of the church in other New Testament passages. “The passage itself uses none of the characteristic terms relating to the church, such as bride, body, or the expression in Christ,” notes John Walvoord. Instead we see that the ten virgins are merely bridesmaids who would be attending at a wedding and not brides themselves. Were this portraying in some way the church, then these virgins would need to be portrayed as brides who were waiting upon their bridegroom, which would be Christ." www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/ice_thomas/Mat24-25/Mat24-25_Part37.cfm]
I agree, the story about the ten virgins is about ten bridesmaids, all sleepy, not about the Bride of Christ, who awaits Him inside.
I noticed that the very last story in the gospels is of the huge haul of 153 fish in the net (which I've heard some think refers to 153 nations). If that is so, it would be appropriate that it is the last story -- very encouraging of a rapture I think.
I've known people who don't expect the Lord to come for us, and teach that the Church must gain dominion over the earth before the Lord will come. They believe the Manchild of Revelation is the victorious Church in the Tribulation. They believe that the Church, Bride is portrayed as the woman who gives birth to a child in the wilderness. In 1987 on the PTL channel, Earl Paulk of the Harvester Hour said "the Lord has shown me the most wonderful type of the Bride of Christ" and he had the audience turn to Chronicles I think it was, and he read of young David, playing the harp before Saul, and Earl Paulk said that 'David is a type of the Bride' to try to prove the Manchild theory. I hold to my faith in His "blessed hope" of being taken up. I do also pray that I may be "accounted worthy to escape all these things" that are coming.
I believe that the Lord is coming for us soon, and I hope I won't even be here when many these things unfold.
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Post by mary on Sept 28, 2022 15:58:17 GMT
I've posted some typology ideas here under Ruth and Boaz, Nahum, Joel, but I don't think I put up the following:
Typology Notes 23 April 1988 with changes, additions 11 Aug 2019
I have prepared some material about some types.
Perhaps my favorite is that Judges 4 and 5, about Deborah and Barak, is a picture story of the victory of the church going up through the heavens. Barak (means "to kneel," or "lightning") is the ready general, even as the Lord (who wants His church beside Him as He brings down the enemy army). Deborah goes with General Barak. Deborah is shown singing of victory and songs that sound like praises to Jesus ("lay down .... life"; and "them that ride on white asses"), even before the head of the enemy is slain. Every man of the evil army is dead. The Lord gave the victory through an outpouring rain. The enemy general, Sisera, is like the Antichrist and he flees to the plain of Magiddo, southeast of the Sea of Galilee, in the north of Israel. Jael, like Israel, will be the cause of his downfall. He hides from pursuers in her tent on 'the plain of Zaanaim, which is by Kedesh,' and when he asks for water, she gives him milk. Milk could be Scripture. She takes a hammer and drives a tent peg into his skull. I think the tent peg, like a nail, is to be her realization and acceptance that Messiah is Jesus! Isaiah speaks of the nail. During this, the church is in heaven, like Deborah, watching, singing, up over the defeated demon hordes that have had dominion in the heavenlies in the past. [My research indicates that Deborah was at Kadesh, a city of refuge and the name means "holy, sacred." Kadesh is now thought to be near the southwestern shore of Galilee.] Judges 4. This story parallels the Battle of Armageddon.
I'm reminded that Noah was up over all the death and flood and darkness. Lot was taken up above before the Lord struck in judgment. Joshua and his people walk over the walls and into the city the Lord has given into their hands.
I think Joel, chapter 1, shows some of the Jews realizing there is no sacrifice, no communion, after the church is gone. The Rapture is, I believe, shown by the failed harvest verses in Joel 1, 2, and the destruction of their crops depicts spiritual loss. The Church was harvested like a ready crop of grain. Next verses speak of a mighty enemy invasion. Later in the book of Joel, much encouragement is given to the Jews that would help them in tribulation. I've done a line by line study of Joel (here at RaptureWatch) with my reasons for thinking this. It appears that the Lord will take up the young children of evil nations.
Nahum depicts the "old lion" and his lair and verse after verse points to the Vatican. Locusts are its princes; quaking mountains place this at the end times. Clues are the words "stagnant pool," "a city of prey," "stumbles over its corpses" (reminds me of the statues of the dead). This group combines with the end time harlot system and the destruction is told of too, with some more details. In Nahum the old lion feeds the others.
In the story of Ruth, I think I have some new insights. I knew that Ruth is like the church, and Boaz is like the Lord. As I reread the story, I noticed that Ruth prepares food for Naomi who lives in the city (Jerusalem) - I think about 19 pints, enough for them both for a while. Then as Boaz awakens with Ruth at his feet and promises to see her cared for (he swears it!), he loads Ruth with 16 seahs (seems to be 15 gallons) of grain in her vail! I think this represents Scripture and the helps which Israel will receive during the tribulation, while the church is with the Lord. Also, perhaps the most important point, is that the child Obed (means "serving") is like the 144,000 believing Jewish evangelists: offspring, fruit of the Lord's Scripture and His church's prayers. These Jews are the joy, the restoration of Israel, who like Naomi, thought all her sons were dead. In the story, Boaz takes note of Ruth in the field, just as the Lord chooses us, and Boaz feeds Ruth the parched grain, during the time she gleans. He tells Ruth to just work in his field. All of this indicates to me that the church will be blessed and with the Lord in heaven before Israel is fully restored to joy!
One unique feature about Rebekah as depicting the bride of Christ is that she is taken to her lord's home. The servant of Abraham came and asked if she would marry Isaac, and she said whe would go to marry him. She has never seen Isaac, yet recognizes him and goes to him, as we will go to the Lord Jesus.
I had puzzled over the fact that no bone of Jesus's body was broken, and wondered if that had some deep meaning from Scripture, since He was so terribly afflicted and hurt otherwise. Then I realized that Eve was made from Adam's rib -- the Lord bore a terrible wound right near His rib but the rib was not broken. This I think depicts the protected church so touchingly.
Also, in the story that Jesus gave of the "midnight call" and the five virgins with lighted lamps and five whose lamps have gone out, we realize that the bride has preceded them. The story has a Bride in it, she just isn't mentioned because she is already inside. John the Baptist was the greatest of men, but even he did not have the joy of being part of the bride (John 3:29). Paul mentioned he would like to prepare the church as a chaste bride. So I think we should focus on brides if we look for foreshadows of this type in the Old Testament books.
In one of his studies, Dr. Thomas Ice said the following: "There are major problems with anyone’s attempt to apply this parable to the church to begin with, since Israel is in view. Further, the imagery does not match up with what should be if this were actually teaching a partial rapture doctrine. The imagery used in the parable of the ten virgins does not comport with that used of the church in other New Testament passages. “The passage itself uses none of the characteristic terms relating to the church, such as bride, body, or the expression in Christ,” notes John Walvoord. Instead we see that the ten virgins are merely bridesmaids who would be attending at a wedding and not brides themselves. Were this portraying in some way the church, then these virgins would need to be portrayed as brides who were waiting upon their bridegroom, which would be Christ." www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/ice_thomas/Mat24-25/Mat24-25_Part37.cfm]
I agree, the story about the ten virgins is about ten bridesmaids, all sleepy, not about the Bride of Christ.
I noticed that the very last story in the gospels is of the huge haul of 153 fish in the net (which I've heard some think refers to 153 nations). If that is so, it would be appropriate that it is the last story -- very encouraging of a rapture I think.
I've known people who don't expect the Lord to come for us, and teach that the Church must gain dominion over the earth before the Lord will come. They believe the Manchild of Revelation is the victorious Church in the Tribulation. They believe that the Church, Bride is portrayed as the woman who gives birth to a child in the wilderness. In 1987 on the PTL channel, Earl Paulk of the Harvester Hour said "the Lord has shown me the most wonderful type of the Bride of Christ" and he had the audience turn to Chronicles I think it was, and he read of young David, playing the harp before Saul, and Earl Paulk said that 'David is a type of the Bride' to try to prove the Manchild theory. I hold to my faith in His "blessed hope" of being taken up. I do also pray that I may be "accounted worthy to escape all these things" that are coming.
I believe that the Lord is coming for us soon, and I hope I won't even be here when many these things unfold.
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Post by mary on Aug 8, 2023 20:04:17 GMT
Typology Notes 23 April 1988 with changes, additions 11 Aug 2019.
I have prepared some material about some types. Perhaps my favorite type is that Judges 4 and 5, about Deborah and Barak, is a picture story of the victory of the church going up through the heavens.
Barak (means "to kneel," or "lightning") is the ready general, even as the Lord (who wants His church beside Him as He brings down the enemy army). Deborah goes with General Barak. Deborah is shown singing of victory and songs that sound like praises to Jesus ("lay down .... life"; and "them that ride on white asses"), even before the head of the enemy is slain. Every man of the evil army is dead. The Lord gave the victory through an outpouring rain. The enemy general, Sisera, is like the Antichrist and he flees to the plain of Magiddo, southeast of the Sea of Galilee, in the north of Israel. Jael, like Israel, will be the cause of his downfall. He hides from pursuers in her tent on 'the plain of Zaanaim, which is by Kedesh,' and when he asks for water, she gives him milk. Milk could be Scripture. She takes a hammer and drives a tent peg into his skull. I think the tent peg, like a nail, is to be her realization and acceptance that Messiah is Jesus! Isaiah speaks of the nail. During this, the church is in heaven, like Deborah, watching, singing, up over the defeated demon hordes that have had dominion in the heavenlies in the past. [Deborah is at Kadesh, a city of refuge and the name means "holy, sacred."] Judges 4. This story parallels the Battle of Armageddon.
I'm reminded that Noah was up over all the death and flood and darkness. Lot was taken up above before the Lord struck in judgment. Joshua and his people walked over the walls and into the city the Lord had given into their hands.
I think Joel, chapter 1, shows some of the Jews realizing there is no sacrifice, no communion, after the church is gone. The Rapture is, I believe, shown by the failed harvest verses in Joel 1, 2, and the destruction of their crops depicts spiritual loss. The Church was harvested like a ready crop of grain. Next verses speak of a mighty enemy invasion. Later in the book of Joel, much encouragement is given to the Jews that would help them in tribulation. I've done a line by line study of Joel (here at RaptureWatch) with my reasons for thinking this. It appears that the Lord will take up the young children of evil nations.
Nahum depicts the "old lion" and his lair and verse after verse points to the Vatican. Locusts are its princes; quaking mountains place this at the end times. Clues are the words "stagnant pool," "a city of prey," "stumbles over its corpses" (reminds me of the statues of the dead). This group combines with the end time harlot system and the destruction is told of too, with some more details. In Nahum the old lion feeds the others.
In the story of Ruth, I think I have some new insights. I knew that Ruth is like the church, and Boaz is like the Lord. As I reread the story, I noticed that Ruth prepares food for Naomi who lives in the city (Jerusalem) - I think about 19 pints, enough for them both for a while. Then as Boaz awakens with Ruth at his feet and promises to see her cared for (he swears it!), he loads Ruth with 16 seahs (seems to be 15 gallons) of grain in her vail! I think this represents Scripture and the helps which Israel will receive during the tribulation, while the church is with the Lord. Also, perhaps the most important point, is that the child Obed (means "serving") is like the 144,000 believing Jewish evangelists: offspring, fruit of the Lord's Scripture and His church's prayers. These Jews are the joy, the restoration of Israel, who like Naomi, thought all her sons were dead. In the story, Boaz takes note of Ruth in the field, just as the Lord chooses us, and Boaz feeds Ruth the parched grain as she is working. He tells Ruth to just work in his field. All of this indicates to me that the church will be blessed and with the Lord in heaven before Israel is fully restored to joy!
One unique feature about Rebekah as depicting the bride of Christ is that she is taken to her lord's home. The servant of Abraham came and asked if she would marry Isaac, and she said whe would go to marry him. She has never seen Isaac, yet recognizes him and goes to him, as we will go to the Lord Jesus.
I had puzzled over the fact that no bone of Jesus's body was broken, and wondered if that had some deep meaning from Scripture, since He was so terribly afflicted and hurt otherwise. Then I realized that Eve was made from Adam's rib -- the Lord bore a terrible wound right near His rib but the rib was not broken. This I think depicts the protected church so touchingly.
Also, in the story that Jesus gave of the "midnight call" and the five virgins with lighted lamps and five whose lamps have gone out, we realize that the bride has preceded them. The story has a Bride in it, she just isn't mentioned because she is already inside. John the Baptist was the greatest of men, but even he did not have the joy of being part of the bride (John 3:29). Paul mentioned he would like to prepare the church as a chaste bride. So I think we should focus on brides if we look for foreshadows of this type in the Old Testament books.
In one of his studies, Dr. Thomas Ice said the following: "There are major problems with anyone’s attempt to apply this parable to the church to begin with, since Israel is in view. Further, the imagery does not match up with what should be if this were actually teaching a partial rapture doctrine. The imagery used in the parable of the ten virgins does not comport with that used of the church in other New Testament passages. “The passage itself uses none of the characteristic terms relating to the church, such as bride, body, or the expression in Christ,” notes John Walvoord. Instead we see that the ten virgins are merely bridesmaids who would be attending at a wedding and not brides themselves. Were this portraying in some way the church, then these virgins would need to be portrayed as brides who were waiting upon their bridegroom, which would be Christ." www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/ice_thomas/Mat24-25/Mat24-25_Part37.cfm]
I agree, the story about the ten virgins is about ten bridesmaids, all sleepy, not about the Bride of Christ, who awaits Him inside.
I noticed that the very last story in the gospels is of the huge haul of 153 fish in the net (which I've heard some think refers to 153 nations). If that is so, it would be appropriate that it is the last story -- very encouraging of a rapture I think. [See my post August 2023 The great net is the rapture....]
I've known people who don't expect the Lord to come for us, and teach that the Church must gain dominion over the earth before the Lord will come. They believe the Manchild of Revelation is the victorious Church in the Tribulation. They believe that the Church, Bride is portrayed as the woman who gives birth to a child in the wilderness. In 1987 on the PTL channel, Earl Paulk of the Harvester Hour said "the Lord has shown me the most wonderful type of the Bride of Christ" and he had the audience turn to Chronicles I think it was, and he read of young David, playing the harp before Saul, and Earl Paulk said that 'David is a type of the Bride' to try to prove the Manchild theory. I hold to my faith in His "blessed hope" of being taken up. I do also pray that I may be "accounted worthy to escape all these things" that are coming.
I believe that the Lord is coming for us soon, and I hope I won't even be here when many these things unfold.
adding Rahab type
link to Rahab, type of the left behind gentiles who help Israel: rapturewatch.boards.net/thread/9222/rahab-type-gentiles-saved-joshua
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