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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 14:25:26 GMT
We all presume the plane was stolen but the question is for what? One thought was raised by Gen. Tom McInerney wondered if the plane was to be used as a nuclear bomb delivery device. Fully fueled, the plane can travel over 9,000 miles. I am wondering if Israel would be the target if this was true or the US.
There is so much going on now and it seems to be snowballing.
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Post by morningstar on Mar 15, 2014 15:08:57 GMT
Are you talking about the Malaysian plane?...I wonder what brought that thought into his mind. Haven't been keeping up on the news as to what really happened there, but that would be a scary thought.
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Post by lavoietheway on Mar 15, 2014 15:33:13 GMT
When I first heard about the plane's disappearance, I thought that it was such a picture of the rapture, with the plane being a Boeing 777. It made me wonder what such an event on a large scale would look like. With the rapture likely being accompanied by earthquakes, maybe there just won't be time to think and maybe the world will be too caught up with other disasters to reflect. Isn't it when one is at their lowest point that the enemy attacks (think of Jesus at the end of 40 days in the desert)? I wonder if the plane has landed somewhere... not impossible, but I think we would have heard by now if a highjack was under way.
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 15, 2014 18:27:33 GMT
Missing Malaysia Airlines plane 'deliberately diverted'The communications systems of missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 were deliberately disabled, Malaysia's Prime Minister Najib Razak has said. According to satellite and radar evidence, he said, the plane then changed course and could have continued flying for a further seven hours. He said the "movements are consistent with the deliberate action of someone on the plane". The plane disappeared a week ago with 239 people on board. Continue reading BBC article by clicking here
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 15, 2014 18:29:37 GMT
I saw on TV an expert say that what the investigators will be doing now, is looking at the pilots wills, insurance policies, and into their lives. They are considering the possibility of pilot suicide.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 18:34:16 GMT
The plane must be hidden inside a big place, if it was hijacked, for them to not have spotted it by now through satellites or something. I just can't even think of what happened and/or is happening to all those people. It's horrifying.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 23:15:54 GMT
I wonder if they are alive and then how tough this is on their families. All we can do is pray for all of them.
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Post by shiloh on Mar 16, 2014 3:07:58 GMT
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Post by LS on Mar 16, 2014 3:28:39 GMT
Here's a question that no one is asking:
Did the Captain train anyone at his home, using his homemade flight simulator? Apparently he was a person with strong political convictions (according to the latest reports).
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 16, 2014 16:52:46 GMT
Jim, are you suggesting that one of the pilots had trained another person to help him fly the plane, and that that person, would have been a passenger on flight 370 to help with the hijack?
If it were hijacked, a number of the passengers would have been involved, I suppose.
Shiloh, I read that link that you posted, and it was pretty sobering.
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Post by LS on Mar 16, 2014 17:35:31 GMT
Well, my thinking was along these lines:
A. It may have been a trial run to see if it could be pulled off successfully B. Once proven successful, the possibility of a larger conspiracy (more to come) should be considered C. I'm assuming that flight schools and their students are under more scrutiny since 9/11 D. So, were more pilots being trained? Could the Captain have trained anyone in his home?
OR ... I could disregard all of the above and conclude that The Captain was/is a nutjob. I'm thinking we'll find out soon.
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Post by shiloh on Mar 16, 2014 17:35:34 GMT
This morning, they were saying that this was well planned out an that the Malaysian government wasn't cooperating. I think Benjamin should go and search for that plane because the search area has expanded even to the west coast of Australia. I don't know but even the experts are baffled. Yet, they all agree this was well planned.
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 16, 2014 17:47:05 GMT
I read in the Guardian that the pilot that left the last message, knew the system had been disabled. They wouldn't release which pilot it was, whether it was the older pilot Shah, or the younger one. They are also not saying whether the Malaysian's recorded this exchange, but you'd think all airports record these now.
If some terrorist group wants to blow up a plane over some city, why don't they just buy one? I know they cost money, but these terrorist groups have money, some of them.
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 16, 2014 17:51:24 GMT
Would it be possible to fly a plane, and be on no ones radar, and still know where you are going? Don't you have to be on the radar so you'll know where you are going?
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Post by LS on Mar 16, 2014 17:55:59 GMT
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Post by morningstar on Mar 16, 2014 18:18:32 GMT
After reading this article, it wouldn't surprise me if that is their intention, after all we are living in a terrorist driven world. All of the comments here have very good points. I guess like everything else that's unfolding we will just have to wait and see what's going to come out of this, and it'll probably take awhile if that is their intention.
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 16, 2014 19:09:28 GMT
So if this pilot has these publicly available air corridor maps, he can fly undetected?
I don't understand how maps would help with elevation, and I'm sure that's necessary to fly.
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Post by LS on Mar 16, 2014 19:40:08 GMT
No Elizabeth, he cannot fly undetected. Military radar would / should pick-up the aircraft should it enter their airspace (remember Korean Air 007 ... and that was 30 years ago)
As far as altitude is concerned, I believe there are standard altitudes for commercial air traffic along certain routes depending on which direction they're traveling. For instance, Eastbound traffic along a certain route might require an altitude of 35,000 ft whereas Westbound traffic requires an altitude of 29,000 ft (I'm just making up numbers) At least that's how I believe it works, but I may be wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2014 20:19:32 GMT
Interesting discussion everyone, while things continue to be just as bizarre. Just two days ago or something they were saying they had found a possible crash site. Weren't there also reports of fake passports? What happened to that?
If the plane had crashed they probably would have found something by now, no? Well, I'm clueless. If all those passengers are still alive, I hope the Lord will help them somehow.
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Post by morningstar on Mar 16, 2014 20:21:50 GMT
Israel seems to think it a possibilty that Iran is behind it, and the plane is hidden. Times of Israel Ex-El Al expert: Iran likely involved in MH 370 Link to Article
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Post by LS on Mar 16, 2014 20:27:25 GMT
The stolen passports were used by two young Iranians, with no terrorist connections; at least one of them was thought to be seeking asylum in Germany. As for the possible crash site, BrJohn, on which day was that...lol? It seems like there's a different sighting or theory on what might've happened popping up daily Morningstar, I like the story you posted because it contains two very different viewpoints. I'm tending towards Lt. Col Eran Ramot's theory. He says: Does anyone else find it odd that The captain's wife and kids left their home one day before this all started?
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Post by morningstar on Mar 16, 2014 20:54:25 GMT
Jim, I agree, I wonder why the media is always so reluctant to claim it a possible terrorist act?..Ever since 9/11 it seems as if it's almost a united effort to steer away from blaming terrorist and terrorism as the cause of violent acts of terror globally, what are they afraid of?
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 16, 2014 21:05:04 GMT
Boy am I out of the loop. Where did it say the pilots wife and kids left home the day before. Where are they now? Are we talking about the older pilot, Shah?
And Morningstar, you bring up an excellent point, they do steer away from terrorism now. I think it had to do as a kick back from George W.
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Post by LS on Mar 16, 2014 21:06:11 GMT
YES ... YES and YES!!! I could not agree more, Morningstar <--- er ... maybe I shouldn't be smiling
Elizabeth, yes, that came out yesterday.
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 16, 2014 21:08:29 GMT
Well Bush and Cheney racheted up terrorism so high. Remember the warnings, the codes? I think people got tired of it, so they stopped it.
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Post by Benjamin on Mar 16, 2014 21:18:08 GMT
YES ... YES and YES!!! I could not agree more, Morningstar <--- er ... maybe I shouldn't be smiling
Elizabeth, yes, that came out yesterday.
I'll give you a hint: it starts with an "i", and rhymes with "Bislam".
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 16, 2014 21:21:46 GMT
Thank you Benjamin, that makes perfect sense. Are they, the (PTB) ever trying to do a number on us.
That's so obvious, I don't know why we didn't think of it earlier.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 0:05:23 GMT
Jim, the possible crash site news piece was three days ago. They were showing satellite images of something that could be a possible crash site in China. Here is a link: blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2014/03/13/the-possible-crash-site-of-malaysian-jet-according-to-china/
I'm guessing that was a false alarm, though. I haven't been following this as closely, but it just seems like they're bouncing around ideas regarding the plane's fate. Maybe they are still completely clueless about it, I don't know.
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Post by nana on Mar 17, 2014 0:09:34 GMT
I can't decide if they really are clueless or if they're just acting that way to steer the search in another direction. Time will tell I guess. My heart still breaks for the families of those involved though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 0:49:44 GMT
I think we can conclude that nothing good will come out of this. I just pray that those who were on the plane are still alive.
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