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Post by Benjamin on Apr 25, 2016 1:13:41 GMT
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Post by shiloh on Apr 25, 2016 2:49:37 GMT
That was most interesting and I agree with all of it.
"The implication is that the sealing of the 144,000 that we witness here in Revelation 7 occurs immediately prior to the commencement of the ministries of the four horsemen; before the earth, the sea and the trees are harmed."
I didn't realize that before. The jet streams of the winds is interesting too along with the number 7 and 4. I knew 7 meant perfection/completion and you're right abut the meaning of number 4.
"The number 4 derives its meaning from creation. On the fourth day of what is called 'creation week' God completed the material universe. On this day he brought into existence our sun, the moon, and all the stars (Genesis 1:14 - 19). Their purpose was not only to give off light, but also to divide the day from the night on earth, thus becoming a basic demarcation of time. They were also made to be a type of signal that would mark off the days, years and seasons."
www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/4.html
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Post by elizabeth on Apr 25, 2016 3:20:03 GMT
I thought your sermon was wonderful Ben, I'm looking forward to the next installment.
Though not your intended purpose, I thought by putting the following together, you solidified the case for a pre trib rapture.
Your summation of 2 Thess 2:2-9 as:
It is the Holy Spirit who now restrains the mystery of lawlessness.
The day will come that the Holy Spirit no longer restrains, for He has been “taken out of the way”.
When that day comes, the Son of Perdition, commonly known as the Antichrist, will rise.
You also mention that:
. . .the fact that the 144,000 are sealed with a very visible, very different type of seal indicates to us a change in the ministry of the Holy Spirit during the Tribulation. I believe that the primary reason that the 144,000 are sealed in this way is because the Holy Spirit is no longer operating upon the earth in the same way, nor does He dwell in men under the same covenant that God the Father has made with the church of Jesus Christ.
Benjamin, you wrote the following:
These Hebrew men are another type of ‘firstfruits’ to God; that is, they are the first harvest of believers that come out of the Tribulation period. This confirms the timing I suggested earlier: that these men precede the tribulation saints that are martyred at the fifth seal, and thus must be sealed themselves prior to the commencement of the judgment of the Lamb. Rather, what Revelation 7 reveals to us is that it is the ministry of the 144,000 that leads to the existence of these believers in the first place, who swell into a “great multitude” that come out of the Tribulation, as we see in the latter half of chapter 7.
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Post by Benjamin on Apr 25, 2016 3:59:13 GMT
Yep. That wasn't accidental - though I didn't have time to pull all of those threads together on their own. You've absolutely nailed it though.
The further I study in Revelation, the more often I find things that simply don't allow for any other conclusion.
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Post by peaceinthestorm on Apr 27, 2016 2:01:00 GMT
Very informative. Thanks again for sharing these sermons with us!
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