hisamazinggrace
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Post by hisamazinggrace on Aug 7, 2017 22:57:58 GMT
My question- I was wondering what is the difference between patience and longsuffering?
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Post by elizabeth on Aug 8, 2017 16:14:55 GMT
I went to a dictionary for a specific definition of each word Daisy: long-suffering: suffering for a long time without complaining : very patient during difficult times patient, (patience) : bearing pains or trials calmly or without complaint : manifesting forbearance under provocation or strain : not hasty or impetuous : steadfast despite opposition, difficulty, or adversity : able or willing to bear —used with of : susceptible, admitting patient of one interpretation www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/patientSo these definitions would be synonymous. I don't know what the difference would be. I'm sure there would be a difference though for them both to be one of the fruits of the Spirit. Maybe the answer lies in how the words are translated from Greed into English, I don't know. Good question Daisy.
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Post by elizabeth on Aug 8, 2017 16:21:33 GMT
Okay I found this from the Blue Letter Bible Site: Longsuffering (Noun and Verb): akin to A, "to be patient, longsuffering, to bear with," lit., "to be long-tempered," is rendered by the verb "to be longsuffering" in Luk 18:7, RV (AV, "bear long"); in 1Th 5:14, RV (AV, "be patient"); so in Jam 5:7, 8; in 2Pe 3:9, AV and RV, "is longsuffering. See BEAR, No. 14, ENDURE, PATIENT, SUFFER. Note: "Longsuffering is that quality of self-restraint in the face of provocation which does not hastily retaliate or promptly punish; it is the opposite of anger, and is associated with mercy, and is used of God, Exd 34:6 (Sept.); Rom 2:4; 1Pe 3:20. Patience is the quality that does not surrender to circumstances or succumb under trial; it is the opposite of despondency and is associated with hope, 1Th 1:3; it is not used of God." * [* From Notes on Thessalonians, by Hogg and Vine, pp. 183, 184.] www.blueletterbible.org/search/dictionary/viewTopic.cfm?topic=VT0001700 underlining done by me, Liz fair use for education and discussion purposes
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Post by Gr8tful on Aug 8, 2017 17:59:21 GMT
Good question!! Good answers too! I have always thought the difference between the 2 is if you're longsuffering means you patiently endure through hardships, difficulties, yet the trials seem to go on with out end. Such as woman married to a mean husband who treats her badly. She prays, believing that in time he will come to the Lord and stands on that, which can take yrs., she would be longsuffering; enduring all that time w/o wavering. Ok, that was a terrible example because there are women who've had to leave that situation for good reason - but that's all I could think of for an example. Where being patient I thought of being more along the lines of waiting, enduring, not going ahead of things in certain circumstances that don't last long. You are patient if you wait in a long line and don't get annoyed, irritated, upset by it. You wouldn't be longsuffering in that situation. We can be patient in circumstances all through out the day that are just temporary. Unlike longsuffering which is a longer period of time. Just my thoughts and hope that makes sense!
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hisamazinggrace
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Post by hisamazinggrace on Aug 9, 2017 16:33:48 GMT
Gr8tful and Elizabeth thank you both so much for taking the time to answer my question! Thank you both for your wonderful insight!
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