Post by mary on Feb 16, 2021 20:42:46 GMT
Babylon: Evil World Religious Power in End Times
In an article at Rapture Ready, "Old Demons in New Bodies," Vanessa P. says:
"I believe the United States to be end-time Babylon. Scripture is clear that end-time Babylon is invaded from the north by an enormous military who shows no mercy. What is going to happen to this nation that we are invaded from the north?"
How does New York City fulfill the woman that sits on seven hills?
Rev. 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
Ron Ferguson says in an article at Rapture Ready, "USA & Babylon/USA in Prophecy: Is It Really There?"
"To claim the United States as the great whore or the commercial Babylon of Rev 18 is just another parochial introspection to try to force the nation into biblical prophecy when it is not there. If the United States was a righteous and clean nation, then students would not be making the Babylon claims. It is likely that commercial Babylon will have an operations base somewhere in the world, as does the UN with its headquarters in Brussels, but if that is the case, then I’d expect it to be in Europe (a lesser possibility is the Middle East), considering that will be the powerbase of the Revived Roman Empire. What is the backbone of the United States at present? It is not its military might; it is not its innovation; it is not its Constitution; it is not its capitalistic enterprises… it is the Christians...."
The idea that the United States is the Harlot Babylon of Revelation, sometimes goes along with Replacement theory which claims Israel is the Church.
Many have claimed that Rome is the Harlot Babylon that will be part of the revived Roman Empire and the Antichrist's world system.
I found an interesting commentary at (1 Pet. 5:13) Was Peter really in Babylon?
CLAIM: Peter claims that he is writing from “Babylon” (1 Pet. 5:13). Is this the case?
RESPONSE: Peter is most likely writing from Rome—not Babylon—for a number of reasons:
First, the book of Revelation symbolically refers to Babylon as Rome (Rev. 16:19; 17:5; 18:2). [1]
Second, Peter says that “Mark” is with him (1 Pet. 5:13). Since we know that Mark was with Paul at the end of his career in the mid-60s (2 Tim. 4:11), it seems likely that Peter is writing from Rome—not Babylon.
Third, Babylon had been long destroyed, and it wasn’t a popular empire anymore. At this period of history, Babylon was a “desolate and ruined city in Mesopotamia.”....
Fourth, Christians hadn’t reached Babylon at this period in history, and it’s unlikely that Peter would be there with an entire Christian community....
Fifth, the early Christian leaders claimed that Peter and Paul both died in Rome—not Babylon.
Since 2 Peter is written at the very end of Peter’s life (2 Pet. 1:14), it is more likely that Peter was writing from Rome—not Babylon.
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[1] Of course, Preterist interpreters hold that this refers to ancient Rome. However, I believe that this refers to a future Rome at the end of human history—based on the imagery of the ancient city (see comments on Revelation 17:9).
In an article at Rapture Ready, "Old Demons in New Bodies," Vanessa P. says:
"I believe the United States to be end-time Babylon. Scripture is clear that end-time Babylon is invaded from the north by an enormous military who shows no mercy. What is going to happen to this nation that we are invaded from the north?"
How does New York City fulfill the woman that sits on seven hills?
Rev. 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
Ron Ferguson says in an article at Rapture Ready, "USA & Babylon/USA in Prophecy: Is It Really There?"
"To claim the United States as the great whore or the commercial Babylon of Rev 18 is just another parochial introspection to try to force the nation into biblical prophecy when it is not there. If the United States was a righteous and clean nation, then students would not be making the Babylon claims. It is likely that commercial Babylon will have an operations base somewhere in the world, as does the UN with its headquarters in Brussels, but if that is the case, then I’d expect it to be in Europe (a lesser possibility is the Middle East), considering that will be the powerbase of the Revived Roman Empire. What is the backbone of the United States at present? It is not its military might; it is not its innovation; it is not its Constitution; it is not its capitalistic enterprises… it is the Christians...."
The idea that the United States is the Harlot Babylon of Revelation, sometimes goes along with Replacement theory which claims Israel is the Church.
Many have claimed that Rome is the Harlot Babylon that will be part of the revived Roman Empire and the Antichrist's world system.
I found an interesting commentary at (1 Pet. 5:13) Was Peter really in Babylon?
CLAIM: Peter claims that he is writing from “Babylon” (1 Pet. 5:13). Is this the case?
RESPONSE: Peter is most likely writing from Rome—not Babylon—for a number of reasons:
First, the book of Revelation symbolically refers to Babylon as Rome (Rev. 16:19; 17:5; 18:2). [1]
Second, Peter says that “Mark” is with him (1 Pet. 5:13). Since we know that Mark was with Paul at the end of his career in the mid-60s (2 Tim. 4:11), it seems likely that Peter is writing from Rome—not Babylon.
Third, Babylon had been long destroyed, and it wasn’t a popular empire anymore. At this period of history, Babylon was a “desolate and ruined city in Mesopotamia.”....
Fourth, Christians hadn’t reached Babylon at this period in history, and it’s unlikely that Peter would be there with an entire Christian community....
Fifth, the early Christian leaders claimed that Peter and Paul both died in Rome—not Babylon.
Since 2 Peter is written at the very end of Peter’s life (2 Pet. 1:14), it is more likely that Peter was writing from Rome—not Babylon.
....
[1] Of course, Preterist interpreters hold that this refers to ancient Rome. However, I believe that this refers to a future Rome at the end of human history—based on the imagery of the ancient city (see comments on Revelation 17:9).
