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Post by Benjamin on May 23, 2014 0:56:27 GMT
This is huge news.
It's been a big day in prophetically significant news, and it's only 11am here!
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 2:05:03 GMT
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Post by shiloh on May 23, 2014 4:21:10 GMT
Mwwwaaaahhhhhh....yeah, global warming. lol. That was good, Rieom. I'm glad this is happening. Maybe the weather will get better. I believe this is prophetic in the sense that the U.S. is wrapped up and embroiled in other problems (domestic and foreign) to have any influence. There's nothing but a bunch of Bozo's in this administration anyway and the only goal they've ever achieved is to throw Israel under the bus time and time again.
Regardless, we (the U.S.) CANNOT keep trying to pressure Israel and divide their homeland. Actually, it isn't even Israel's right to divide the land because of the fact that it is God's land.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 11:14:44 GMT
I'm a little skeptic about this, but... I guess I'm not surprised.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 11:32:30 GMT
I did not get what you meant, at first, about how big this really could be Benjamin. This opens the way for someone else to step in and get this process back on track. While tweedle dee and tweedle dum were doing their one-sided process no one else would step in. We will have to follow this closely. Tis is such an exciting time to live in!
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Post by Benjamin on May 24, 2014 2:33:07 GMT
For my mind, the logic is fairly simple:
- Obama isn't the Antichrist. Neither is John Kerry.
- While the US is engaged in trying to forge Middle East peace, other parties are unlikely to bother entering the fray.
This absolutely opens the door for someone ELSE to step in and seek to bring peace between the two parties. That is, of course, assuming that the covenant made by the Antichrist is in regards to peace between Israel and the Palestineans. I'm not 100% sold on that, though the phrase, "he shall make a covenant with the many", could potentially be indicative of the Palestineans. It's interesting that in Psalm 83, the Palestineans are mentioned numerous times under varied names ("the tents of Edom", Amon, Moab, Philistia, Amalek), and that could indicate why they are "many". Others have indicated that the "many" might be the 10 Kings; three of whom transfer their power to Antichrist, thus fueling his rise.
Thoughts?
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Post by morningstar on May 24, 2014 3:42:33 GMT
That is a good thought Benjamin, that's the beauty of Prophecy, it gives you what God says is going to happen, and here we are on this side seeing it unfold while God is weaving the details for it's fulfillment.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2014 11:03:13 GMT
I think of the "many" as being many Middle East countries, those around Israel, and with that covenant that's possibly how they will be allowed to build the Third Temple. Perhaps a covenant made after prophetic wars are fulfilled. That's why I think these Palestinian-Israel talks isn't that covenant. The fact that it failed is pretty much an indicative of that.
But maybe I'm a little off on that.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2014 17:48:19 GMT
That sounds like it could fit Benjamin. I posted an article on this forum that seems to be going in the direction you thought it would. I am so not trying to get excited but it just bursts forth unawares.
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Post by Benjamin on May 25, 2014 1:58:01 GMT
I think of the "many" as being many Middle East countries, those around Israel, and with that covenant that's possibly how they will be allowed to build the Third Temple. Perhaps a covenant made after prophetic wars are fulfilled. That's why I think these Palestinian-Israel talks isn't that covenant. The fact that it failed is pretty much an indicative of that.
But maybe I'm a little off on that.
...that's what I lean toward as well. The 10 kings theory is interesting, but the covenant there is between 3 kings and the antichrist, and I don't think that qualifies as "many". |
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Post by shiloh on May 25, 2014 4:17:27 GMT
Well, that makes 3 of us who are of the same train of thought. I always thought the "covenant with many" would be Israel's immediate surrounding Arab nations. How else will the AC bring 'peace'? There's going to be some kind of deal and the AC will be the Messiah to all of them.
Even though Psalm 83 is a battle and the Muslim faith will be brought to its knees, there will still be factions of it....enter the Antichrist.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 14:00:00 GMT
I agree with you both on that.
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Post by elizabeth on May 25, 2014 17:00:12 GMT
I always thought the covenant with many, was an agreement with the rulers of the world. I thought the peace the ac would bring would affect the whole world, not just the ME. I thought the ac would be arriving when the whole world would be at war, not just the ME but I admit that could be wrong. I just believed this ac person would just dazzle everyone to the core.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 18:18:09 GMT
Well, I guess that could be, but then wouldn't it be a covenant with all/the whole world as opposed to "many"? I also think it's between Israel and the countries around it because that's the biggest conflict Israel is facing at the moment at least. Sure, anti-Semitism is on the rise in the whole world, but still. The AC could still be a very charismatic and influential leader without having a specific covenant with the whole world.
I guess at this point this is all mainly speculation as to which other countries will be a part of that covenant, though.
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Post by Benjamin on May 25, 2014 22:52:20 GMT
I always thought the covenant with many, was an agreement with the rulers of the world. I thought the peace the ac would bring would affect the whole world, not just the ME. I thought the ac would be arriving when the whole world would be at war, not just the ME but I admit that could be wrong. I just believed this ac person would just dazzle everyone to the core. I agree wholeheartedly with almost all of this - But the fact that Antichrist is said to explicitly break the covenant when he sets up the Abomination that Causes Desolation means that the covenant is in some way specifically related to Israel, and not just a broader peace pact. |
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