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Post by shiloh on Feb 11, 2014 1:51:35 GMT
This is what I've been trying to say but Jack Kelley summed it up much better. Will the Last Seven Years Begin In March 2014? (Q&A by Jack Kelley) Q. There are some who look at Revelation 12 and match the sign that John saw in the heavens to a computer program called Starry Night that accurately tracks past and future movements of stars, planets, sun, moon, etc. and the description matches very well in Sept of 2017. If Revelation 12 is considered “mid trib” then could it mean that the beginning of the seven years would be March of 2014? A. For Daniel’s 70th Week to begin next month the following would have to take place this month; the rapture of the Church, the battles of Psalm 83, Isaiah 17 and Ezekiel 38, and a seven year covenant that permits the building of a Temple has to be put in force ( Daniel 9: 27). Both Paul ( Romans 11:25) and James ( Acts 15: 13- 18) say the Lord will take the Church before turning back to Israel. While there’s nothing to prevent the rapture from taking place any day now, I don’t see world events taking place rapidly enough for these other things. Remember, Israel has to think they are living in a time of peace for the battle of Ezekiel 38 to take them by surprise, and it’s this battle that will open their eyes and cause them to reinstate their Old Covenant relationship with God so Daniel’s 70th week can begin ( Ezekiel 39: 21- 22). I don’t think anyone in Israel believes they are living in peace today. gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/will-last-seven-years-begin-march-2014/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Gracethrufaith+%28GraceThruFaith%29 Fair Use for Information and Educational Purposes
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Post by LS on Feb 11, 2014 2:04:42 GMT
This should be one of those permanent threads ... at least for the next 30 days or so
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Post by elizabeth on Feb 11, 2014 2:13:47 GMT
Thank you Shiloh for posting this, I think it's excellent. LS, your response was funny, but sadly kind of true.
Elizabeth
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Post by morningstar on Feb 11, 2014 3:02:27 GMT
Exactly! Amen! Great! I rest my case!!...e.t.c...LS is right!!...I could go on and on but I won't. Jack Kelley said it in a nutshell. But, sadly people will not heed nor pay attention, but will continue to try and configure Christ's Return by every planet, star and hiccup the Sun may have. Good article Shiloh.
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Post by shiloh on Feb 11, 2014 5:56:59 GMT
LS! You FINALLY have your avatar! What a handsome, young man! Hey, I'm hoping for the "gap theory" you guys. I have to try and find that interview with Bill Salus.
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Post by LS on Feb 11, 2014 18:06:20 GMT
Thanks, Shiloh .. but ... "young" ? (I'll stop here as I don't want to mess up yet another thread ) Your message here is too important and exemplifies why most of us are on this Forum.
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Post by morningstar on Feb 11, 2014 20:02:01 GMT
Whew!! LS, I'm glad you said what LS stands for "Leaving Soon"..I was hoping it didn't mean 'Lost Soul"...LOL!!...just kidding....by the way like your Avatar like your smile, You and Benjamin are Handsome Lads!!
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Post by shiloh on Feb 11, 2014 21:23:50 GMT
Jim, don't ever worry about messing up my threads or "hijacking" them. I often hijack my own threads..lol...and you and Benjamin ARE handome lads, as Morningstar said..... Morningstar, I was laughing at your post because I felt a song coming on. Instead of 'Riders in the Sun', I had the same tune going through my head but it was 'Hiccups in the Sun'.......hahahahahahaha..my daughter used to say to me, "Mom, you have a song for EVERYTHING!" But she would just shake her head as if it were sad that I do that, even though she still laughs when I do that. No wonder she got married and moved to Connecticut....but she still can't escape me...lol
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Post by Benjamin on Feb 12, 2014 1:15:03 GMT
I'm still not sure how we got from being a Rapture-based forum to a rapture and cat-based forum... I suppose that's the way of things, on the internet Now, back to the topic... The idea that the Tribulation will commence in April (late April) is based (at least in part) on this: So the question is: is Scottie (EternalRhythmFlow) right? I guess the only real possible answer is "time will tell". Are the "signs in the heavens" described in Revelation 12 naturalistic signs (occurrences in the heavens that were planned before time begain), or are they supernatural (signs that God Himself will cause to take place at the appropriate time)? I don't know the answer to that one. It could, in all honesty, be either. John saw signs in the heavens, and detailed them in his book. He was told to write those things down, which would suggest that they're written for our benefit. That, in and of itself, might suggest that the signs in the heavens are natural occurrences and not necessarily supernatural. ...but again, time will tell. I hope he's right. I really, really do - but I haven't placed all of my eggs in that particular basket.
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Post by shiloh on Feb 12, 2014 5:24:16 GMT
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Post by LS on Feb 12, 2014 5:43:45 GMT
Excellent read, Shiloh.
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