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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2014 18:39:00 GMT
Note: This made me gasp with shock.
Prime Minister Netanyahu chides Herzog & Livni for being willing to to give the Palestinians Jerusalem as their capital.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu chided Hatnua leader Tzipi Livni for claiming earlier this week that the Western Wall would remain forever in Israel’s hands, hinting that under her plans Jews would need armored personnel carriers to reach the site.
Speaking at the International Bible Contest for Adults in Jerusalem, Netanyahu said the spirit of the Maccabees is what brought the Jews back to Israel, allowed them to build and defend the land, and “gives us great strength to stand up against all challenges and rebuff all pressure.”
For full article: www.israelandstuff.com/pm-netanyahu-if-livni-herzog-elected-jews-will-need-armored-personnel-to-access-western-wall
For discussion and education purpose
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Post by Leeza on Dec 24, 2014 20:13:24 GMT
Thanks for the article, Rieom. I don't know why I have the strongest impression that Herzog and Livni will be elected for a split term for Prime Minister, and that they are going to be willing to divide the land for peace. I do believe if that happens, the peace agreement will be signed and we are out of here as the 7 year tribulation begins at that point.
This excerpt from the article caught my attention:
Personally, I think they will.
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Post by shiloh on Dec 24, 2014 22:23:58 GMT
Oh, I agree. They would divide Jerusalem in a heartbeat. Both Herzog and Livni are extremely liberal. However, I don't believe this would be the peace agreement that would be confirmed by the AC. I believe that Psalm 83 and Isaiah 17:1 have to come first. Then, Ezekiel 83 maybe and enter the AC. He will give assurance to Israel that they will be living with peace and security until he breaks that agreement in the middle if the peace agreement.
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Post by Leeza on Dec 25, 2014 2:37:40 GMT
Yes, I do remember Perry Stone and others saying that they believe that the rapture won't come until Damascus is a ruinous heap. But aren't we going to be gone BEFORE the 7 year peace agreement is signed? I remember it says in the Word that once the "restrainer" (Holy Spirit) is gone, THEN the wicked will be revealed in 2 Thess 2:7-8. That's why I was thinking that we will be gone before the "covenant with many" in Daniel 9:27 takes effect.
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Post by shiloh on Dec 25, 2014 4:57:37 GMT
I think so too, Leeza. I don't believe we'll be here for the revealing of the Antichrist. Most who think we will be are mid-trib believers.
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Post by Benjamin on Dec 25, 2014 8:47:10 GMT
Yes, I do remember Perry Stone and others saying that they believe that the rapture won't come until Damascus is a ruinous heap. But aren't we going to be gone BEFORE the 7 year peace agreement is signed? I remember it says in the Word that once the "restrainer" (Holy Spirit) is gone, THEN the wicked will be revealed in 2 Thess 2:7-8. That's why I was thinking that we will be gone before the "covenant with many" in Daniel 9:27 takes effect. This is correct. The conjecture on Psalm 83 and Isaiah 17 is just that - conjecture. I think that Isaiah 17 is post-rapture, personally... while Psalm 83 contains references to "thy hidden ones" that could potentially be suggestive of a Raptured Church... meaning that we're already gone before that conflict (I believe Isaiah 17 is the opening foray of the Psalm 83 war) occurs. |
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Post by shiloh on Dec 25, 2014 9:39:00 GMT
Well, I like your version the best, Benjamin. I hope we are not here to see any of those battles unfold. "Thy hidden ones" has always been intriguing to me. I have wondered if it is a somewhat elusive hint of the raptured church, or if it is referring to the faithful remnant in Israel. I can easily see it referring to the church.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2014 11:16:41 GMT
As I understand it, the AC will not sign the 7-year treaty but he will "enforce it". We should be gone before this happens and before he steps onto the world stage.
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Post by shiloh on Dec 26, 2014 0:15:38 GMT
That's how I understand it too, Rieom. He will "confirm" a covenant with many. For a covenant to be confirmed, one would have already have had to be in place before. As to what covenant it is, we don't know. I highly doubt it'll be the 1967 borders... I could be very wrong, but the reason I say that is because Israel is supposed to gain a lot of the promised land back after the Psalm 83 battle. AH! So, we could be gone before the Psalm 83 battle even happens. I just have this feeling in my spirit that we can reach out and touch the rapture at this point. |
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Post by Leeza on Dec 26, 2014 7:47:27 GMT
Yes, me too. That means that we will be out of here sooner.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2014 15:13:18 GMT
After waiting so long it is hard to believe that we are so close. I truly think the veil is thinning and we are just about there.
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Post by Leeza on Dec 26, 2014 17:27:05 GMT
After waiting so long it is hard to believe that we are so close. I truly think the veil is thinning and we are just about there. Me too, Rieom. I just have a gut feeling about this. |
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Post by mary on Nov 2, 2020 17:42:42 GMT
Yes, I do remember Perry Stone and others saying that they believe that the rapture won't come until Damascus is a ruinous heap. But aren't we going to be gone BEFORE the 7 year peace agreement is signed? I remember it says in the Word that once the "restrainer" (Holy Spirit) is gone, THEN the wicked will be revealed in 2 Thess 2:7-8. That's why I was thinking that we will be gone before the "covenant with many" in Daniel 9:27 takes effect. This is correct. The conjecture on Psalm 83 and Isaiah 17 is just that - conjecture. I think that Isaiah 17 is post-rapture, personally... while Psalm 83 contains references to "thy hidden ones" that could potentially be suggestive of a Raptured Church... meaning that we're already gone before that conflict (I believe Isaiah 17 is the opening foray of the Psalm 83 war) occurs. I ran across this post from 2014 and thought it is very interesting, regarding looming wars and "thy hidden ones."
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Post by morningstar on Nov 3, 2020 19:37:39 GMT
I agree with Benjamins comment about the Church not being here when Isaiah 17, and Psalm 83 wars happen in Israel. I did a study on Zephaniah a while back showing the reasons why, here's the Link if your interested in reading it. rapturewatch.boards.net/thread/3078/zephaniah-day-lord |
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