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Post by morningstar on Feb 22, 2014 22:43:39 GMT
Is someone thinking what I'm thinking?...Hmmmm....Give you a clue..Noah.
DNA Analysis Of Paracas Elongated Skulls Released. The Results Prove They Were Not Human
Paracas is a desert peninsula located within the Pisco Province in the Ica Region, on the south coast of Peru. It is here were Peruvian archaeologist, Julio Tello, made an amazing discovery in 1928, a massive and elaborate graveyard containing tombs filled with the remains of individuals with the largest elongated skulls found anywhere in the world.
These have come to be known as the 'Paracas skulls'. In total, Tello found more than 300 of these elongated skulls, which are believed to date back around 3,000 years.
A DNA analysis has now been conducted on one of the skulls and expert Brien Foerster has released preliminary information regarding these enigmatic skulls. It is well-known that most cases of skull elongation are the result of cranial deformation, head flattening, or head binding, in which the skull is intentionally deformed by applying force over a long period of time.
It is usually achieved by binding the head between two pieces of wood, or binding in cloth. However, while cranial deformation changes the shape of the skull, it does not alter its volume, weight, or other features that are characteristic of a regular human skull. The Paracas skulls, however, are different.
The cranial volume is up to 25 percent larger and 60 percent heavier than conventional human skulls, meaning they could not have been intentionally deformed through head binding/flattening.
They also contain only one parietal plate, rather than two. The fact that the skulls' features are not the result of cranial deformation means that the cause of the elongation is a mystery, and has been for decades.
Mr. Juan Navarro, owner and director of the local museum, called the Paracas History Museum, which houses a collection of 35 of the Paracas skulls, allowed the taking of samples from 5 of the skulls.
The samples consisted of hair, including roots, a tooth, skull bone and skin, and this process was carefully documented via photos and video. The samples were sent to the late Lloyd Pye, founder of the Starchild Project, who delivered the samples to a geneticist in Texas for DNA testing.
The results are now back, and Brien Foerster, author of more than ten books and an authority on the ancient elongated headed people of South America, has just revealed the preliminary results of the analysis. He reports on the geneticist's findings:
"It had mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA) with mutations unknown in any human, primate, or animal known so far. But a few fragments I was able to sequence from this sample indicate that if these mutations will hold we are dealing with a new human-like creature, very distant from Homo sapiens, Neanderthals and Denisovans."
The implications are huge. "I am not sure it will even fit into the known evolutionary tree," Foerster wrote. He added that if the Paracas individuals were so biologically different, they would not have been able to interbreed with humans.
The results need to be replicated and more analysis undertaken before final conclusions can be drawn.
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Post by shiloh on Feb 22, 2014 23:56:53 GMT
Mmmhhhmmmmm..Nephilim. I've read about the cranial head bindings before and this is definitely different.
Here's what I don't understand. Part of the reason for the flood was to destroy the Nephilim but Goliath was believed to be one (the giants). Will they emerge again in the final 7 years? And how does that work? Do women have relations with demons? I really never understood that and that's just plain CREEPY to me and gives me the willies. I thought angels (fallen or not) do not procreate. Somebody help me out on my understanding about this.
I'm not questioning whether the Nephilim exisited. I know they did. I'm just wondering how that works.
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Post by morningstar on Feb 23, 2014 0:47:18 GMT
The way I understand it is that, they were the Fallen Angels, and they broke the rules. They can take human form, just like the Angels who went to Sodom to remove Lot & his family before judgment fell. So, I believe they can have relations with women in their physical form. These Angels were chained in the Abyss, but it says that it happened again after the flood, hence Goliath e.t.c., Satan tried to corrupt the bloodline that would lead to the Messiah...he'll never quit trying I guess. Anyway, I'm not one who believes that Genesis 6 was referring to the line of Seth, that view just doesn't pan out because it leaves to many questions open or explains verses like in Jude. Chuck Missler has a very interesting theorym here are two links if you want to read more on it. Mischievous Angels or Sethites?And Also After That': The Return of the Nephilim? - Chuck Missler - Koinonia HouseChucks site, and articles in the subject...pick one. www.khouse.org/sphider/search.php?query=nephilim&search=1 |
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Post by LS on Feb 23, 2014 2:06:58 GMT
Morningstar, I'll apologize in advance for what I'm about to post. But after seeing those creepy looking skulls, I couldn't help but think of this: 
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Post by morningstar on Feb 23, 2014 2:30:51 GMT
Everyone thinks I'm crazy here in the house because I am laughing out loud!!!!...That was soooooo funny LS. You should know by now that I have a sense of humor that won't quit..I enjoy this kind of stuff....Thanks for the hearty laugh...
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Post by shiloh on Feb 23, 2014 2:38:43 GMT
Got it, Morningstar. Thanks. I don't believe that was referring to the line of Seth either. As a matter of fact, my daughter and me had a discussion aout that one time because she thought it was referring to the sons of Seth and we disagreed on that.
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Post by shiloh on Feb 23, 2014 2:43:03 GMT
LOL, Jim! That's so funny and you know what? When I was looking at those skulls, I was thinking, "Boy, that gives me a headache just THINKING about having to carry a skull around on my shoulders that big!"
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Post by elizabeth on Feb 23, 2014 2:44:52 GMT
Yes Jim, I laughed at that too. Pretty funny.  |
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Post by Benjamin on Feb 23, 2014 3:32:09 GMT
Mmmhhhmmmmm..Nephilim. I've read about the cranial head bindings before and this is definitely different. Here's what I don't understand. Part of the reason for the flood was to destroy the Nephilim but Goliath was believed to be one (the giants). Will they emerge again in the final 7 years? And how does that work? Do women have relations with demons? I really never understood that and that's just plain CREEPY to me and gives me the willies. I thought angels (fallen or not) do not procreate. Somebody help me out on my understanding about this. I'm not questioning whether the Nephilim exisited. I know they did. I'm just wondering how that works. Jude sheds some light on this one. Jude 1:6 says that God constrained for judgement those angels who had "left their habitation". The word "habitation" is the greek "okiterion", which is the same word that Paul uses to describe our bodies (both physical and spiritual) in 1 Corinthians 15. The implication here is that the Fallen Angels left behind their spiritual bodies, choosing to become something 'other' in order to have relationships with women. That was the sacrifice they made for their god (Satan) in order to try to pervert the line of the Messiah. My take on it is this... that there are three distinct entities at work: 1) Fallen Angels - who were created in Genesis 1:1, but rebelled and followed Satan 2) Nephilim - the offspring of the fallen angels and women (Gen 6:4) 3) Demons - the spirits of Nephilim, left behind after their flesh died. This would make sense, because the spirit of a Nephilim would have nowhere to go upon death - being welcome neither in paradise, nor in hell (which is reserved for the devil and his angels). It would also explain how demons are able to possess. A fallen angel couldn't possess anybody, as it has a body all of its own. A dispossessed spirit, however, is free to roam and would constantly seek to occupy a body, as we see in the gospels. This also explains appearances of "ghosts" etc., whereas UFOs and so on are either fallen angels, or (in some instances) the corrupted offspring of those fallen angels (I believe this is what "greys" are, for example). Further to that, this also explains why UFOs are so often related to genetic experimentation. As far as the flood goes, my take on it has been this: That God, having seen the corruption on earth, and seeing that only Noah was "pure in his generations" (that is, untainted by the DNA of the Fallen Angels), caused the flood to occur. Clearly at some point after this, the Fallen Angels got to work again - because the Nephilim were also in the land after the flood (and were driven from Israel after they endured 400 years of slavery in Egypt). I was quite interested in these things for a while, and read everything I could get my hands on. I think... and this may not be an issue here, but it has been elsewhere (for example, I think ProphecyInTheNews has become far too obsessed with this topic) - that we need to ensure that we remain balanced, however. This battle isn't ours: it's the Lord's, and the outcome is a foregone conclusion. Looking into these things can be beneficial; staying deep in these things can be harmful. Ultimately, though, I think we need to keep our eyes trained on The Lord, and trust in Him. This isn't an issue we'll have to contend with. Personally I think it's Satan's attempt at "evening out the numbers", given that he's vastly outnumbered angelically (at a ratio of 1 to 3), and that these things will all be unleashed upon the earth during the Tribulation, where they will no longer seek to corrupt, but to destroy. ...that's my take, anyway. |
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Post by morningstar on Feb 23, 2014 3:44:46 GMT
Benjamin good explanation, thank you.  |
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Post by elizabeth on Feb 23, 2014 3:47:19 GMT
Thank you Benjamin for your explanation of the difference between fallen angel, nephilim, and demon. This makes good sense, and this has confused me for a long time.
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Post by jasperdale on Feb 23, 2014 4:02:24 GMT
i have watched a few of "the watchers" series and the whole nephilim thing is certainly creepy. it is just one more reason for people to get off the fence and embrace the Lord Jesus while they have the chance. it sure sounds like an awful lot of really REALLY icky stuff will be going on after the rapture and i certainly am glad we are not going to have to endure satan as he has power over the earth. (i've always been a bit squeemish about skulls)
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Post by LS on Feb 23, 2014 4:43:36 GMT
Pwhew (wiping my forehead) Morningstar, Shiloh and Elizabeth, thanks for indulging me. I'm trying to keep the things I find humorous on topic at least |
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Post by shiloh on Feb 23, 2014 5:16:26 GMT
That was a great explanation, Benjamin. I guess the reason I really never understood it is because I've never spent a whole lot of time on studying it and I agree, our eyes should be trained on the Lord. I don't want to give fallen angels and the Nephilim more time or credit than what they're worth. And your right, It IS the Lord's battle and we already know how that turns out - praise God. I agree with your 3 points also. Hey, Jim....didn't you know that they're from France?  |
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Post by LS on Feb 23, 2014 5:25:55 GMT
Uh oh Shiloh, I must be getting old. How could I have forgotten about The Coneheads? People were wearing Conehead Halloween costumes years after it was cool to do so ... and I forgot about them? Yikes! Good recall on your part though ... and perfect for this thread! (btw, I see they're not "consuming mass quantities" in this picture |
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Post by morningstar on Feb 23, 2014 5:35:56 GMT
Shiloh, that is so hilarious, I'm laughing my elongated head off!!!...
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Post by shiloh on Feb 23, 2014 6:22:01 GMT
Jim, good observation. I believe their daughter is talking to her parental units in that picture. lol
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Post by eben on Feb 25, 2014 2:47:37 GMT
I have the same thoughts as well Benjamin, I agree with you although I am not so sure if demons are really the spirits of the dead Nephilims. A part of me thinks demons are just angels who rebelled against GOD. But I actually lean to your explanation that they are, again, the spirits of the dead Nephilims.
Recent reports say that scientists are creating chimeras - my conspiracy theorist side say that they are experimenting on the Nephilim DNA... maybe they are trying to revive them knowingly or unknowingly.
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Post by morningstar on Feb 25, 2014 3:37:29 GMT
Leave it to Chuck Missler to draw our attention to certain verses. In Daniel, Chuck is saying that this might imply that they (Fallen Angels) will try to intermingle with mankind again.
Like Chuck says, it is a provocative thought.
Here is the Scripture.
Daniel 2:41-44
41 Whereas you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; yet the strength of the iron shall be in it, just as you saw the iron mixed with ceramic clay. 42 And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile. 43 As you saw iron mixed with ceramic clay, they will mingle with the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay. 44 And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.
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Post by shiloh on Feb 25, 2014 4:14:50 GMT
Hmmm. All good points here. Morningstar, you are cracking me up with your comment about laughing your pointy, elongated head off. That really made me laugh.
Eben, I have often wondered about that too - whether demons are Nephilim or fallen angels but I DO lean toward spirits of Nephilim also. One reason is because people that have seen these demons often describe them as very tall and with pointy, elongated heads.
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