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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2014 12:15:47 GMT
I wonder if I would even care once I get to Heaven but there are a few things I would like answers to, like:
Who killed Kenney?
What happened at Area 51?
Did Lizzie Borden kill her parents?
What questions would you like to have answered?
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Post by MyWhiteStone on Mar 7, 2014 13:16:37 GMT
Oh man, Reiom. I'm glad you asked. I'd like to know the answers to all your questions too. Maybe after they are known they might become answers written down on heavenly Trivial Pursuit cards for people to play at parties in 10,000 years or more.
A few more general questions occur to me: Will we be allowed, even encouraged, to explore God's universe and discover or meet beings of any kind anywhere who love the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in the same or similar manner as He has both taught and brought us to? If / when we might meet such beings, would our mutual love of God spark an affinity for them and lead us to valuing and building relationships with them that could last for centuries, millennia, or aeons? Will all evil be vanquished at the Judgement Day throughout the entire universe, or only perhaps within the context of our "tiny" solar system, this portion or branch of the Milky Way, or other larger but somehow limited domain?
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 7, 2014 16:43:33 GMT
rieom, I think about stuff like that. Sometimes I fantasize about being in my home in heaven and watching a TV screen. I can call up moments in history, like a meeting between Churchill, and Stalin and watch what was actually said, and the demonic activity around them. There's so much of earths history I'm looking forward to learning.
And we will finally know the truth about areas the gov't is not successful at hiding, like Area 51.
And what we will learn about space and time will be amazing, I think.
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Post by MyWhiteStone on Mar 7, 2014 22:45:25 GMT
By the way, I hope some things, by God's mercy, we will not be able to recall. We'd have to take someone else's word for it though, since we won't be able to recreate a checklist of things we can't recall...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2014 19:00:35 GMT
StillGuessing: I have wondered if we would be able to travel around and explore and talk to those we meet along the way.
Elizabeth: Your idea of being able to see history as it really happened sound like a great idea. I often wonder if we will even care once we are in the presence of God.
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 8, 2014 19:25:54 GMT
rieom, that's a very interesting thought, I wonder. Perhaps not.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2014 20:47:38 GMT
One of my main questions would be for Jesus....What was He feeling the night that He was betrayed by Judas? What was going through His mind and heart when He was in agony in the Garden? What was He feeling when, on the cross, He cried out, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?" Was He fulfilling scripture by quoting Psalm 22:1? Or did He actually feel the Father separating Himself from Him because of the sins of the world that He was carrying at that very moment?
Those are the questions I would like to ask.
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Post by shiloh on Mar 8, 2014 22:27:21 GMT
Leeza, I think along those exact same lines and things I would like to ask others from the bible. There are things I would like to ask Daniel, Ezekiel, Isaiah (my favourite book), Moses, Noah and that list goes on as does in the N.T., Paul, John, Peter, and the rest of the apostles...and there's something in particular I would like to ask Stephen and the same for Paul. rieom, I like this thread and I have wondered things like that too. I have to admit, I believe we will automatically know about those things but they won't even matter once we're in the presence of our Lord. We'll see the big picture as He does and has. By the way, I'll be the one clinging to His robes as you see me being dragged like a fish out of water through the streets of gold....lol....just find me an aquarium or something. (j/k on the aquarium part)
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 8, 2014 22:44:06 GMT
There are many biblical questions I would like answers to, and situations I would like more information on. Also, there are skills I would like to acquire. Heaven will be wonderful.
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Post by morningstar on Mar 8, 2014 23:06:49 GMT
One of the things I would like to ask our Lord Jesus, is what exactly happened when He Cried out to the Father "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken Me?" I've always wondered what happened right at that moment. It was a heartfelt cry...and it tears me apart whenever I read that piece of Scripture.
Liz Quote:
One thing I would love is to have a beautiful singing voice...and I think we all are...that would be heavenly. Because right now I sound like a turkey running away from the kill...LOL
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Post by shiloh on Mar 9, 2014 5:37:24 GMT
I've often wondered about that too, Morningstar. I wonder if it's because our Lord had all the sins of the world upon Him and the Father cannot look upon sin. I also wonder what our Father felt at that moment. The Son cannot stand being seperated from the Father and vice versa. That's a whole subject in itself.
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Post by jasperdale on Mar 9, 2014 9:57:40 GMT
rieom, I think about stuff like that. Sometimes I fantasize about being in my home in heaven and watching a TV screen. I can call up moments in history, like a meeting between Churchill, and Stalin and watch what was actually said, and the demonic activity around them. There's so much of earths history I'm looking forward to learning. And we will finally know the truth about areas the gov't is not successful at hiding, like Area 51. And what we will learn about space and time will be amazing, I think. elisabeth, i am so with you on the idea of watching past history. i think it would be wonderful if we could go back in time and actually WATCH Jesus heal the blind man, watch the early church and all it did. what fun we are going to have in heaven.
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Post by MyWhiteStone on Mar 9, 2014 11:03:20 GMT
I wonder, Elizabeth and Jasperdale, if we are indeed able to go back and actually observe things, if we might have options to observe "alternate endings" -- i.e., if things had happened this way and not that way, the way in which it actually went. And then to be able to also clearly sense or recognize the evil or good or even random chance that influenced the actual event...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2014 11:08:11 GMT
I also have wondered where Noah got all those animals? They could not all have been local.
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Post by MyWhiteStone on Mar 9, 2014 12:18:46 GMT
Good question, Rieom, and also what happened long long ago, and when, to limit so many unusual and unique animals to Australia...?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2014 19:57:54 GMT
They did not have the ability to ship like we do today and wasn't Noah in a landlocked area?
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Post by MyWhiteStone on Mar 10, 2014 6:40:58 GMT
Congratulations, Rieom, on your recent graduation to Junior Member!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 12:18:37 GMT
Thank you StillGuessing! You will be a Junior member at any minute.
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 10, 2014 17:02:04 GMT
Dan, sorry I somehow missed your post. Regarding this quote:
I wonder, Elizabeth and Jasperdale, if we are indeed able to go back and actually observe things, if we might have options to observe "alternate endings" -- i.e., if things had happened this way and not that way, the way in which it actually went. And then to be able to also clearly sense or recognize the evil or good or even random chance that influenced the actual event...
Your mind can cope with things mine can't even fathom doing - that would just confuse me. I just like to go along and think about what is actually happening, generally. I think though that if that is what you want to think about, on your TV set in heaven, it might be possible. We'll have to wait til we get there to see Dan.
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Post by shiloh on Mar 10, 2014 17:46:34 GMT
It's sort of like when you're invited to see an alternate ending to a movie and they pick which one the audience that's been chosen to view the movie comes up with, the ending that they liked best. Whew..Was that a run-on sentence, or WHAT? I think in real life, the ending would be the same because it's all in God's ultimate plan. Indeed, all the hairs on our head are numbered, as are our days.
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 10, 2014 18:03:08 GMT
I understand the concept Shiloh, I just can't fathom doing it. I have a one track type brain. lol
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Post by MyWhiteStone on Mar 10, 2014 21:50:04 GMT
Liz, I'm expecting there to be no TVs. I'm not suggesting there will be no video devices of any kind, but suspect even hologram type imaging has probably been done in heaven for aeons already. High resolution flat screens will likely be passe' because of their physical limitations.
"Video" ought to do something for a person. For instance, do you know how it feels some days or some times while deep in prayer and praise having a deep deep feeling of love that you experience with the Holy Spirit who is in you interceding and revealing God's love to you? I'm looking forward to being able to watch programming (via some deeply spiritual perhaps 3D (or 5d? or 6D?) technology) that continues and even enhances that experience. A new kind of tear-jerker ability that is never artificial or anything but glorious. I suspect God would want us to have deep spiritual connections with Him and with others who love Him, which may be different because today we have these time and space limitations; but since God's technological capabilities can know no bounds, we will likely have the ultimate in communicators, and not necessarily material ones...
By the way, the tear-jerker experiences I end up suffering from in some movies are near cousins, I think, to the tears I often involuntarily shed in worship. Groans that words cannot express, for example.
I have one more thought about tears: I frequently weep during prayer. My question is: will I still weep while in prayer in the Kingdom? Why or why not?
I know I'm really odd with all this speculation. You and I had a discussion about that several weeks ago. Thanks for the discussion. Don't mind my prattle.
Love in Christ,
SG / MWS / Dan
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 10, 2014 22:35:36 GMT
Dan, God loves us, and He want us to love one another, but I would never think of using hologram machines in this. I would just look to Christ, and it would happen, no machine, just Christ.
Sometimes I cry too, when I am praying. It is easy to get overwhelmed with what the Lord has done for us. We are so undeserving, and because of Him, we are so blessed.
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Post by MyWhiteStone on Mar 11, 2014 3:50:42 GMT
You know, Liz, in many ways our physical beings consist of an amazing array of microscopic machines. God can and has put together an unknowable number of machines and graced them as a unit with an individual spirit, and has breathed souls into each one; and voila, a loving creation capable of independent interaction with their Creator begins, which somehow the Creator finds deeply valuable and satisfying.
We have limits in knowledge and experience and are unable to think of a "machine" as satisfying. But consider this analogy: you and I are using keyboards and screens to chat, but our God-given souls and spirits are fulfilled in a small way through this medium, and our interaction is also enhanced in value since we both know and love Someone in common -- that Great Creator. We are communicating heart to heart, but suffering limitations, even while enjoying some actual meaning, or even just a semblance of meaning, for each of us. I simply expect in the Kingdom that we'll have access to some really interesting communications aids wherein sharing relationships is not limited by messages we have to pass via eyeballs and eardrums. A concept of direct heart to heart communications among created beings is not a stretch to me. Prayer is a real thing, for example, and it works here and now on earth. I suspect there's even a lot better way or ways of communing among beings that's awaiting our discovery then and there.
Thanks again for for engaging, Liz. Sorry. I don't want to distort your perceptions by forcing my presumptions and speculations. Honestly. I just can't help drooling over what I suspect is out there waiting for us.
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 11, 2014 4:29:49 GMT
Dan, I agree with you about the communication in heaven. I'm sure it will be a direct heart communication, as well as verbal if we want. I know, it is wonderful to think about. I can hardly wait.
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Post by Benjamin on Mar 11, 2014 7:09:15 GMT
Personally, I think that heaven has technology that we've never even dreamed of. In fact, I think Scripture hints at numerous types of technology that are beyond our current scope. The first few chapters of Ezekiel spring to mind.
Beyond that, I think that there will be great advances in our understanding of the universe; particularly in regards to energy. Scripture has so many references to God the Father, and to Jesus, that all relate back to light and energy. I think there's something important in those references that, by and large, we miss, because we're so focused on the proverbial meaning of light that we forget the literal.
As a brief example, if you look at the OT prophets, and the way they describe the return of Jesus, and the battle in the valley of Jehosophat, it sounds for all the world like Jesus uses His own light, His own being, to obliterate the enemy - almost as if He Himself were made of lasers.
Now, I know how ridiculous that sounds - but I think the reason that it sounds ridiculous is because neither I, nor anybody else, has the terms or understanding with which to make that particular prophecy make any more sense. I think the prophets, both in the Old and New Testaments, encountered this same issue - where the scope of what they were seeing, both in technological and natural terms, was so far beyond their own experience that they literally lacked the words with which an accurate description could be formed.
No matter how you slice it - heaven will be incredible.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 12:54:58 GMT
Congrats Stillguessing on your promotion to Junior member!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 13:08:52 GMT
I think there could be a learning curve. Everything at once could be an overload. As we mature and grow then we will learn or experience more.
I will get teary eyed when I pray at times and it just takes my breath away. Even at this, feeling humbled before God, I do not think we can fully understand the sacrifice Jesus made for us.
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Post by elizabeth on Mar 11, 2014 20:17:01 GMT
Benjamin, I think the technology will be amazing, and I also think when we get there, we will instantly know how to use all of it. There will be no learning curve. I hope so anyway, or otherwise I am doomed (I couldn't even put in my own avatar!)
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