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Post by Benjamin on Nov 19, 2015 7:49:56 GMT
No video this week, unfortunately, so you'll have to content yourselves with the notes. This is the continuation of my series in Revelation - currently 10 sermons in. This is the second sermon looking at the throne room of the King. The last sermon I preached was focused primarily on John being caught up into heaven, and the transcendence of that event. I examined the parallels between John's experience and the future rapture of the church. This sermon is looking at the atmosphere, the purpose and the people of the throne room. Hope you enjoy it. 10 - The Throne Room of the King Pt.2.pdf (508.43 KB) SCRIBD link for those who can't view PDFs: www.scribd.com/doc/290353558/10-The-Throne-Room-of-the-King-Pt-2
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Post by shiloh on Nov 19, 2015 12:43:36 GMT
Excellent as always. I don't know why I always get emotional at you're sermons. It's as if the Holy Spirit is touching me.
I've always imagined it being that way. Almost deafening. I can't even imagine. All I know is that I will be weeping at HIS feet out of thankfulness for what HE did on the Cross for me and you. I thank Him and our Heavenly Father every day. I loved the part about the emerald rainbow and what it stands for too.
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Post by elizabeth on Nov 20, 2015 6:03:41 GMT
Excellent Benjamin. I just have one comment.
I don't believe that Christ is our King. I believe He is our Savior, Lord, and our Bridegroom. I see Him as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, in the earthly realm. We are part of His body now though, we are heavenly.
In the writings of Paul, I never see Christ referred to as the King over the Church.
Perhaps I am wrong.
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Post by Benjamin on Nov 20, 2015 8:13:25 GMT
I'm not sure I understand your point...
Jesus Christ is King of Kings and Lord of Lords, and we shall be kings under Him in His Kingdom here on earth during the Millennium. We are the "kings" of which He will be THE King.
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Post by shiloh on Nov 20, 2015 9:35:24 GMT
Liz, have you been hittin' the bottle again? (Just kidding)
Jesus' Three Offices: Prophet, Priest, and King
Excerpt from: carm.org/prophet-priest-king
Christ as King
A king is someone who has authority to rule and reign over a group of people. Jesus is just such a king. He is called the King of the Jews by the Magi (Matt. 2:2), and Jesus accepts that title in Matt. 27:11, "Now Jesus stood before the governor, and the governor questioned Him, saying, 'Are You the King of the Jews?' And Jesus said to him, 'It is as you say.'” Matt. 21:5 speaks of Jesus and says, "Behold your King is coming to you, gentle, and mounted on a donkey." Remember, Jesus is King in that He rules and judges. "And I saw heaven opened; and behold, a white horse, and He who sat upon it is called Faithful and True; and in righteousness He judges and wages war," (Rev. 19:11). The armies follow Him (Rev. 19:14).
The phrase, "Kingdom of God," occurs 66 times in the NASB, most of them in the synoptic Gospels. “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel," (Mark 1:14). Jesus taught us to pray, "Your Kingdom come . . . " (Matt. 6:10). Is there a kingdom of God without a King? No. Jesus is that king: "'Are You the King of the Jews?' And Jesus said to him, 'It is as you say,'" (Matt. 27:11).
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Post by elizabeth on Nov 20, 2015 18:36:26 GMT
Shiloh, I meant King over the Church. It is plain to see that Christ will be King over the Jews, as you pointed out.
Paul was the apostle sent to the gentiles, where does he ever say that Christ will be King over the Church in his writings?
We will reign with Him. He is our Lord, Savior, and Bridegroom, but I don't think he means to be King over His Bride.
Sorry Ben and Shiloh, I'm probably not explaining this too well; it's probably best dropped.
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Post by chiara on Nov 20, 2015 18:55:02 GMT
In my opinion, us being his bride doesn't change the fact that he is King. Even when earthly kings get married, the remain king. I don't see why he would change his position. He is the King, our savior and Lord... and has appointed is to rule as kings on earth- always obeying him, the head-just as a wife is to to obey her husband. So he has always been the head and The King.
And as always, this one made me tear up. God bless you Benjamin. Such a faithful and honest brother. Amazing how the voice of the Holy Spirit is so loud and clear in your writings. Xoxo
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Post by Benjamin on Nov 20, 2015 21:06:00 GMT
Shiloh, I meant King over the Church. It is plain to see that Christ will be King over the Jews, as you pointed out. Paul was the apostle sent to the gentiles, where does he ever say that Christ will be King over the Church in his writings? We will reign with Him. He is our Lord, Savior, and Bridegroom, but I don't think he means to be King over His Bride. Sorry Ben and Shiloh, I'm probably not explaining this too well; it's probably best dropped. I wouldn't consider those things to be exclusive, Lizzie. He's absolutely our Lord, Saviour and Bridegroom - but the Title "King of Kings" is used as a superlative. It's expressing His Kingship over ALL things. This is the pattern in the Millennium, too: Christ, The King of Kings, we, the kings, and David as king over Israel under Christ. There's a hierarchy there in Scripture. While I don't have a verse that says "Jesus, King of the Church", there are repeated passages in Revelation where the church extols Him and declares that He is worthy to have all dominion. That includes us. There's also the point made in Revelation 4:10 where the Elders lay their crowns down before Christ upon His throne - a clear indication of His supremacy and our willing subjection to Him as King.
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Post by elizabeth on Nov 21, 2015 4:33:38 GMT
Thank you, good points Ben.
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Post by shiloh on Nov 21, 2015 11:26:42 GMT
Yeah, Ben had great points there. I always thought of King of "kings" and Lord of "lords". I thought the point he brought up about about the Elders casting their crown before the Lord was good reference. Even though we will be like Him, we are NOT Him. So, He will always be our King. He reigns and rules forever and ever over all of His creation.
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