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Post by Benjamin on Apr 20, 2014 3:27:55 GMT
So... this has come up a little bit lately, so I thought I'd put together a timeline of the events surrounding the crucifixion and resurrection. Everything in this timeline has been derived from Scripture. If you have any feedback, or think I've missed something important, or you disagree, let me know below Ta! Note: You'll have to click on the image to see it full-size.OR... you can download a pdf version here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 11:01:42 GMT
Hum... Needs more glitter. LOL. Kidding. Seems well constructed! Thanks for sharing!
The only thing I would note is that the Resurrection would most likely have to have had a very small time frame in which it happened. Like, at the very last second or minute of the third day. In order to preserve both the "three days in the heart of the earth" concerning the physical body of the Lord inside the tomb, and "on the third day" concerning the Resurrection.
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Post by Benjamin on Apr 20, 2014 11:12:28 GMT
I agree. The variability on my chart is because we don't know when the Lord's burial took place. We know He died at around 3pm, and we know that Joseph had His body in the grave before 6 - but the exact timing is lost to us. Personally I think that the resurrection timing would have been precise - so, had His body been laid in the tomb at 6, He would have most likely been resurrected at 6pm on the third day.
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Post by nana on Apr 20, 2014 13:20:45 GMT
Thanks, Benjamin. I've always wondered how 3 days translated into 1 1/2 but I didn't know about the High Sabbath so I assumed He was put into the tomb on Friday evening. It all makes sense now.
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Post by lily on Apr 20, 2014 14:30:57 GMT
Thank you for making this chart, Benjamin. This answers some questions I had about timing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 15:03:09 GMT
I agree with you Benjamin that the timing had to be precise. Usually with a Jewish burial, it has to be completed within 24-hours of death so there had to be a reason, such as the high Sabbath, to bury Him so soon after he died on the cross for our sins. Love your chart Benjamin, it is well done.
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Post by elizabeth on Apr 20, 2014 19:03:05 GMT
I think you did a great job on this Benjamin. You're really good with computer stuff huh?
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Post by Benjamin on Apr 21, 2014 1:39:51 GMT
Computers and I have a long and involved history, yes.
I really only have one question with my timeline... and I suspect there is an answer to it that I simply haven't found yet.
Using a Wednesday date for the crucifixion has one issue: If Jesus died on a Wednesday (which would be consistent with a 28AD or 31AD crucifixion), then... why did the women not take spices to the tomb on the Friday, the 17th?
There's either a rational answer to that question that I haven't found yet (some people argue that they spent a day preparing spices, but I find that hard to believe), or I've missed something somewhere.
Either way, the idea that Jesus died on a Friday is flat wrong. It doesn't work at all with the passover / high sabbath that Scripture talks of.
Some people argue for a Thursday crucifixion (which would be 34AD), but that doesn't seem to allow for three days & nights.
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Post by shiloh on Apr 21, 2014 6:48:23 GMT
You know, I was thinking about that last night too, concerning the women and the spices. I have to see if I can find something on that.
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Post by morningstar on Apr 21, 2014 18:26:37 GMT
Thank you Benjamin, I love the layout on the Resurrection, I believe Chuck Missler also teaches this view, and I have to agree with it, it makes so much sense. I would like to know about the Women and the Spices..so if anyone finds something on this please post it. Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 19:18:22 GMT
Using a Wednesday date for the crucifixion has one issue: If Jesus died on a Wednesday (which would be consistent with a 28AD or 31AD crucifixion), then... why did the women not take spices to the tomb on the Thursday, the 16th? There's either a rational answer to that question that I haven't found yet ( some people argue that they spent a day preparing spices, but I find that hard to believe), or I've missed something somewhere. Benjamin, I think you meant Friday there. Thursday in theory would have been the special Sabbath, remember?
I suggested what is in bold on the other thread, lol, now I feel silly. Anyway, maybe the crucifixion was on a Thursday. Or maybe they didn't go to the tomb on Friday because they were waiting for the third day. But Luke 24:6-8 makes me think that they only remembered the Lord's words at that time, and hadn't thought of it until then, so that's unlikely too.
Perhaps the crucifixion having been on a Thursday would be more fitting. But then the three days and three nights would have to include the time going from the moment the Lord was crucified, not just the time going from the burial. Like,
Crucifixion: Thursday from 9am to sunset (1 day); Inside the tomb: Thursday sunset to Friday sunset (special Sabbath, 1 night and 1 day); Friday sunset to Saturday sunset (Sabbath, 1 night and 1 day); Saturday sunset to Sunday sometime before the ladies arrived in the morning (1 night);
Giving a total of 3 days and 3 nights. "In the heart of the earth" would then have to be taken figuratively, like 'in the grave or sentenced to death' or 'in the belly of the beast' or in the case of the sign of Jonah, a whale, as opposed to a completely literal 'inside the tomb'. I still feel like "heart of the earth" is meant as 'under the earth', literally in the tomb, but this may be what makes the most sense, considering other verses which mention it being [on] the "third day" since the crucifixion, depending on how things are being described (for instance Luke 24:7 and Luke 24:21).
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Post by shiloh on Apr 21, 2014 22:26:40 GMT
Soooooo, was it a Thursday or a Wednesday Jesus was crucified on? I can see the Thursday one too.
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Post by shiloh on Apr 21, 2014 22:36:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 1:14:18 GMT
Shiloh, the Jack Kelley article that you shared is the one with the Thursday theory. That theory isn't mine. Lol. I just now think that it's probably the most fitting one after all.
To summarise what has already been stated by people, and unless I'm forgetting something:
- the theory of the crucifixion on a Thursday would only conflict with the "three days and three nights in the heart of the earth" that Jesus said in Matthew 12:40 (assuming 'heart of the earth' means literally 'inside the tomb', that is).
- the theory of the crucifixion on a Wednesday would bring to question why the ladies didn't go to the tomb on Friday instead; it also wouldn't parallel as nicely with the Passover lamb customs in preparation for Passover; and lastly, it would conflict with verses in Scripture pointing to it being the "third day", like Luke 24:7 and Luke 24:21, because if Jesus had been inside the tomb for three full days and three full nights, then by the time people found out about His Resurrection it would be the fourth day, not the third.
All things considered, maybe Thursday would have been more likely, but then 'heart of the earth' would have to be taken somewhat figuratively, starting with the moment of His crucifixion, instead of the moment of burial, and ending with the Resurrection like an hour or so before the ladies arrived at the tomb on Sunday morning, instead of ending with the Resurrection on the sunset of Saturday. Considering it, an hour would be more than enough time for Jesus to be raised and leave the tomb to go elsewhere. "He is not here. He has risen."
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Post by shiloh on Apr 22, 2014 2:10:39 GMT
Right. I see what you're saying, John. I tend to lean toward Thursday as in when Jesus was crucified. That would be Thursday, Friday and He would arise on the third day - Saturday, the Sabbath (even though there was a special Sabbath that week). Is any of this going to matter at all to us who love Him and when we are finally with Him? No. But it's interesting to speculate and try to figure it out.
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