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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 11:07:39 GMT
Really? Has it come to this?
Don't forget, Zechariah 12:3 is very clear on this issue of dividing Jerusalem, and a 'PA State" will do just that. The U.S. is actively forcing this upon Israel and it is a guarantee that the God if Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will not be happy with this at all.
U.S. Officials: Even If Israel Doesn't Like It, Palestinians Will Get State
[This article may be one of the most revealing so far - in terms of the honest opinions of the U.S. administration regarding Israel and the 'peace process'. It isn't pretty. The bias against Israel is extreme and as predicted the failures are all being blamed on Israel, which is light-years from reality. Anyone who has followed this story easily realizes that the failures were from Abbas' ridiculous and constantly changing demands which would never be met under any scenario. for the U.S. to now blame and threaten Israel is difficult to watch. Especially with Genesis 12:3 in view]
www.prophecyupdate.blogspot.com/
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Post by Benjamin on May 4, 2014 11:25:10 GMT
[mod edit: the original article is a little hard to read (small column, tiny font), so I've reproduced it here, too. Credit where it's due etc.]
CONTINUED FROM ABOVE...
American officials directly involved in the failed Israeli-Palestinian peace process over the last nine months gave a leading Israeli columnist a withering assessment of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s handling of the negotiations, indicated that Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has completely given up on the prospect of a negotiated solution, and warned Israel that the Palestinians will achieve statehood come what may — either via international organizations or through violence.
Speaking on condition of anonymity to Nahum Barnea, a prominent columnist from Israel’s best-selling daily Yedioth Aharonoth, the officials highlighted Netanyahu’s ongoing settlement construction as the issue “largely to blame” for the failure of Secretary of State John Kerry’s July 2013-April 2014 effort to broker a permanent peace accord.
They made plain that US President Barack Obama had been prepared to release spy-for-Israel Jonathan Pollard to salvage the talks. And they warned that “the world will not keep tolerating the Israeli occupation.”
Barnea, who described his conversations with the American officials as “the closest thing to an official American version of what happened” in the talks, said the secretary is now deciding whether to wait a few months and try to renew the negotiating effort or to publicize the US’s suggested principles of an agreement.
Detailing how the US sought to solve disputes over the core issues of a two-state solution, Barnea wrote on Friday that, “Using advanced software, the Americans drew a border outline in the West Bank that gives Israel sovereignty over some 80 percent of the settlers that live there today. The remaining 20 percent were meant to evacuate. In Jerusalem, the proposed border is based on Bill Clinton’s plan — Jewish neighborhoods to Israel, Arab neighborhoods to the Palestinians.” He quoted the Americans saying that while the Israeli government made no response to the American plan, and also failed to draw its own border outline, Abbas agreed to the US-suggested border outline.
One bitter American official told Barnea, “I guess we need another intifada to create the circumstances that would allow progress.”
A third intifada, the Americans made clear, “would be a tragedy. The Jewish people are supposed to be smart; it is true that they’re also considered a stubborn nation. You’re supposed to know how to read the map: In the 21st century, the world will not keep tolerating the Israeli occupation. The occupation threatens Israel’s status in the world and threatens Israel as a Jewish state.”
[Oh - so now the U.S. is agreeing with the inaccurate and misleading "occupation" line...Another interesting development]
Pressed by Barnea on perceived international hypocrisy over Israel’s presence in the West Bank, when the world “closes its eyes to China’s takeover of Tibet, it stutters at what Russia’s doing to Ukraine,” the Americans were quoted as responding: ”Israel is not China. It was founded by a UN resolution. Its prosperity depends on the way it is viewed by the international community.”
[Did you see that? Israel 'was founded by a UN resolution'? Well, in a technical sense perhaps - but my recollection of the book of Genesis indicates that God actually founded Israel...But I digress]
The American officials described to Barnea what they called Abbas’s loss of trust in the talks and in Netanyahu, and how his skepticism hardened as settlement-building continued, and as Israel demanded complete security control over the territories. From Abbas’s point of view, the Americans told Barnea, the sense was “that nothing was going to change on the security front. Israel was not willing to agree to time frames; its control of the West Bank would continue forever. Abbas reached the conclusion that there was nothing for him in such an agreement.
In a rare attribution of some blame to Abbas, the Americans said they “couldn’t understand why it bothered him so much” to recognize Israel as a Jewish state. But here too, ultimately, the Americans were empathetic to Abbas: “The Palestinians came to the conclusion that Israel was pulling a nasty trick on them. They suspected there was an effort to get from them approval of the Zionist narrative.”
[Now that one is priceless. So it is a 'nasty trick' for Israel to have the PA recognize Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state. How clever]
The Americans warned that, with the talks over, Israel might be facing “quite a problem. As of now, nothing is stopping the Palestinians from turning to the international community. The Palestinians are tired of the status quo. They will get their state in the end — whether through violence or by turning to international organizations.”
[Ahhh - of course - the inevitable threats to Israel for not giving up their land and defensible borders]
Some of the warnings delivered by the Americans reflected a similar tone to that expressed by Obama in an interview he gave shortly before his last meeting with Netanyahu at the White House in March.
Israel can expect to face international isolation and possible sanctions from countries and companies across the world if Netanyahu fails to endorse a framework agreement with the Palestinians, Obama cautioned in an interview with Bloomberg at the time.
[More threats from the U.S.]
The president went on to condemn Israel’s settlement activities in the West Bank, and said that though his allegiance to the Jewish state was permanent, building settlements across the Green Line was counterproductive and would make it extremely difficult for the US to defend Israel from painful repercussions in the international community. “If you see no peace deal and continued aggressive settlement construction — and we have seen more aggressive settlement construction over the last couple years than we’ve seen in a very long time — if Palestinians come to believe that the possibility of a contiguous sovereign Palestinian state is no longer within reach, then our ability to manage the international fallout is going to be limited,” Obama warned.
[And closing with even more thinly veiled threats...How long will God put up with this?]
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Post by shiloh on May 4, 2014 12:15:30 GMT
Is it just us who want to give a huge "hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"? This gets my blood pressure up! It is no wonder why our nation (U.S.) is under judgement!
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 13:07:26 GMT
Good idea Benjamin, much easier to read this way.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 13:08:51 GMT
It is like waiting for the other shoe to drop Shiloh. We know it is coming, it is just a matter of when. I tend to think we will be here for this judgment.
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